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New to 323, quick question.
Nautilus:
Gentlemen,
Thank you ALL for the input, much of which I suspected.
Here's the plan.
I really do want this boat lol!!!
5.5-6.5 Kt's avg cruising speed is adequate as it's basically what I do now. Should be fine here roaming up and down the east coast.
Here's the deal, as the boat is affordable, and in good condition. Other than the layers of bottom paint and what appears to be water seeping from a point midway up the keel she appears in fine condition for a 1980 boat.
As I fully expect to repower, I would do that as soon as I could spare the change. Sometime in the next several years. As the vessel is listed in the mid teens, a ~$15K repower is not only feasible, but may be preferred. For personal reasons I want to stick with diesel.
I'm hoping this to really be the last boat I purchase. I'm a less is more type of person so if I end up living aboard her, I don't think it would be a problem for my Admiral and I. Yes, as 36-40 footer would be nice. But with retirement in the horizon, expenses increase logarithmically with boat size lol.
So, I'm hoping the stars align, certain events come to place before the 2013 season starts, and no one grabs her so we can talk as fellow 323 owners.
I'll know better within the next few weeks.
In the end, I don't know what it is, but I feel a real attachment to this particular boat......she calls to me at night from the boat yard! lol
Thanks Again,
Ed
selene:
I'm interested in your comment on "water seeping midway up the keel".
As you know, the keel is encapsulated. However when I got my boat, there was water seeping out of the bottom of the false keel. I drilled a hole into the keel, a week later it was still weeping; so I enlarged it, and in the end I ended up removing a 2ft*2ft surface of the false keel; underneath the fiberglass 'skin' the false keel filling was literally like Swiss cheese, multiple small holes, many with filled with water, oil, etc (?!). Beats the hell out of me how that happened, but I also found evidence of a previous repair - a long drainage hold drilled upwards from the bottom aft of the keel, then filled.
Anyhow I let it dry out, refilled, repainted - so far so good. I guess that the false keel void must have been filled with some kind of epoxy filler; but how did water/oil penetrate this? Through the bilge somehow? Very odd as everything else is high quality and very solid.
Anybody else had a similar experience?
(P.S. Still love my 323!)
Nautilus:
Selene, others,
This is what I see, and I'm NO expert, but I see rust stain.
Ed
selene:
Okay, I am stumped. Judging by the angle this looks like a photo of the forward part of the keel. I *thought* all P323s had encapsulated lead (mine is). maybe the PO grounded on a rusty nail? :) Regardless, I am betting that you need to grind the area out, inspect, then re-epoxy.
If you have not purchased the boat yet, you may want to make the final offer contingent on having the area ground out and then inspected by your surveyor. I don't want to be an alarmist - in most cases it should be a quick and easy job. But in a worst case, I have heard in other boats holed through "skin" of the encapsulated keel having water penetrating around the internal ballast/hull joint, damaginf the integrity and loosening the ballast. Especially bad if cast iron ballast.
Chances are it should be a quick grind and fill - a fairly straightforward job (and should not be too expensive). As an aside, I prefer an encapsulated keel - dry bilge (no bilge smells), no keel bolts to worry about - but no solution is perfect.
Good luck!!
Dolce_Vita:
Am I seeing things that aren't there, or does the top part of the darkest area show a circular outline when magnified?
A drill hole from past probing?
Can't imagine what is producing the rust stain. The only thing in the bilge that is made of mild, rustable steel is the mast step, and it would take a terrific amount of delamination to allow rusty water from that to make its way down that far between the keel ballast and the hull.
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