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jmcmonagle:
The surveyor determined the the fuse or breaker must be withing 3 feet of the inlet.
So the insurance company wants it changed :-(
At some point will want  new ac panel after I get done the other survey issues and things that really bother me.

I see two possible solutions.

1. Put breaker in the aft portion of the starboard lazarette.
Exactly where I'm not sure.
Needs to be accessible but not too easy to accidentally switch.

2. Move inlet  to below and right of the manual bilge pump.

Any thoughts on this?
I lean towards 2. When done all the ac stuff will be in one spot.
Biggest con is  cosmeticly  filling the old hole.

John

selene:
My, you are busy!  I think we all face the same dilemma - but not yet enforced by insurance.  My plan is option 1 - put in an ELCI in the locker.

This article may be useful: http://www.boatingmag.com/installing-an-equipment-leakage-circuit-interrupter

I like the idea of the Blue Seas ELCI/housing - but rather big and expensive! Things are getting a bit crowded in my starboard lazarette, as the hydraulic ram for the autopilot is also there...

Incidentally, if you do decide to move the inlet, you may want to consider changing to a Smartplug. I don't have one, but many people swear by them.

Good luck and keep us posted!

jmcmonagle:
Was not thinking of elci but really should.
Makes it a bit larger and more expensive :-(

My last boat had a  plastic ac outlet box mounted to bullhead in the  lazarette.
A blue sea breaker on small panel  was attached via a adapter panel made out of wood.
Looked OK.

This is my proposal:
Get a side mountable electrical box large enough to hold the elei breaker.
A double box or  similar. Maybe an exterior metal box.
Need to consider strain relief.
If you have the skill ( I doen't)  to make a panel with all the needed holes.
Or buy the elci with panel and if needed make an adapter panel.

Need to be able to see and reach breaker but not where  it will be accidentally tripped.
I'm  thinking high and aft as far as one can see and reach.

rnebergall:
Curious relative the surveyor's determination that the breaker must be within 3 feet of the inlet.  The spec sheet for the Blue Seas surface mount system says it meets ABYC E11 standards when used with an ELCI Main Circuit breaker and mounted within 10 feet of the shore power inlet.  Do you know why your surveyor is requiring the breaker to be within 3' of the inlet?

In my case, the existing breaker box is almost the same size as the Blue Seas box.  So, size would not be an issue.  I would be wanting to locate a replacement box in the same location, which, I'm guessing would be within 10', but certainly not within 3'.  Existing box is right on top of where the old original fuse panel was located, forward in port lazarette.

jmcmonagle:
I'm thinking that the surveyor was mistaken about the 3 feet.
I've read ABYC E11 and it clearly says 10 feet or 3 meters.
He didn't bother checking for fuses or breaker or measuring the distance.
So he reported that be saw no breaker or fuses and guessed it to be over 10 feet.
I've measured and it's under 10 feet.
Have the original ac install  with fuses under peg board.
The fuses are  too hard to get at and ABYC-11 does not allow fuses for the main.
Now I'm leaning toward this:
http://shop.pkys.com/Blue-Sea-8101-120-Volt-AC-Circuit-Breaker-Panel-with-ELCI-Main_p_2714.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAperBBRDfuMf72sr56fIBEiQAPFXszYtHAqRz4rO1xKLDNMjFAV9EfzdfKM15TGx0okQfDxkaAlLE8P8HAQ
Little cheaper some other places.
Back is about $20.
Breakers about $14.

If your install is otherwise OK  hubble and marinco make elci that look like a shore power inlet box.

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