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Boat Handling / Re: New to 323, quick question.

« on: February 16, 2013, 09:56:00 AM »

Awesome!

Thanks for the input.

I'll keep you all posted.

All I need now is Neptune's grace and some stars to align!

Ed

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Boat Handling / Re: New to 323, quick question.

« on: February 15, 2013, 03:52:29 PM »

If you don't mind, other thoughts Ed........

Just stumbled across a post from you regarding safety on another repower post, food for thought. http://www.pearson323.com/forum/index.php?topic=40.0

Question is, you must have a backflame arrestor on the Carb, correct?
I have to check my CG Regs, and NY State regs too, but I do believe it's mandatory.

How long to you run the blowers before you turn her over?

Do you have an auto extinguishing system?

Lots of food for thought here!

I like those $$ you spoke of compared to the diesel.
The cheap $#*! in me lol.

Ed

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Boat Handling / Re: New to 323, quick question.

« on: February 15, 2013, 03:15:45 PM »

Ed,

Thanks for the advice and data.

Agreed, not any one requirement (like the A4) is stopping me. I'm alright as long as I know what I'm getting into because I'd rather be aware of MY perceived  "con's" rather than encountering "buyers remorse" after the fact.

My concerns are not so much the A4 itself (another vessel I looked at has a rebuilt A4), but rather the gas. I just have never been a fan of inboards using gas.
Murphy's Law is a clear and present danger in my life.

I once had a a diesel fuel leak from a bleeder screw for an entire 4 hour run home on board my Bristol. I had to babysit it the whole way to prevent the bilge from filling with diesel. I actually enjoyed a good cigar during it since all I was doing was constantly holding shop rags on the bleeder and wiping it. Other than looking like Han's the "Ghost" from the movie "Das Boot" and feeling like I was in Pink Floyd concert (ears ringing and being high from diesel fumes) I was no worse for wear and had a great story to tell. That sort of convinced me to stick with diesel.
Had I not noticed it, I would just have environmentally trashed Long Island Sound.
Had it been  gas, well I don't want to think about it.

Safety aside, I know both diesel and gas have it's pro's and cons.

My current vessel burns about 1GPH just hitting hull speed at 6.3 kts. So 3/4 GPH average is not an issue.

Plus diesel is about a dollar more.

Like I said, not a show stopper, just a consideration.

Moving forward to view the boat!

Thanks!

Ed

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Boat Handling / Re: New to 323, quick question.

« on: February 14, 2013, 12:09:22 PM »

Thanks to everyone!

Here's an update.

I dropped the deal on boat with the diesel because I'm not paying an addition $5k yard quoted bottom job on a vessel in fair condition.
Owner states he came down enough already originally with his asking price, so he is welcome to sell to someone else.

However, I have a line on another 323, this having the Atomic 4.

Though my intent was to go diesel for personal reasons,  would Dolce_Vita give me performance estimates and why he stayed with the Atomic 4?
What are the arguments for the Atomic 4? (No flame wars please, just data lol)

Again, concerned with avg cruising speed, and now fuel consumption.

v/r

Ed

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Boat Handling / Re: New to 323, quick question.

« on: January 22, 2013, 10:14:49 AM »

Selene, others,
This is what I see, and I'm NO expert, but I see rust stain.
Ed

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Boat Handling / Re: New to 323, quick question.

« on: January 19, 2013, 12:07:49 PM »

Gentlemen,

Thank you ALL for the input, much of which I suspected.

Here's the plan.

I really do want this boat lol!!!

5.5-6.5 Kt's avg cruising speed is adequate as it's basically what I do now. Should be fine here roaming up and down the east coast.

Here's the deal, as the boat is affordable, and in good condition. Other than the layers of bottom paint and what appears to be water seeping from a point midway up the keel she appears in fine condition for a 1980 boat.

As I fully expect to repower, I would do that as soon as I could spare the change. Sometime in the next several years. As the vessel is listed in the mid teens, a ~$15K repower is not only feasible, but may be preferred. For personal reasons I want to stick with diesel.

I'm hoping this to really be the last boat I purchase. I'm a less is more type of person so if I end up living aboard her, I don't think it would be a problem for my Admiral and I. Yes, as 36-40 footer would be nice. But with retirement in the horizon, expenses increase logarithmically with boat size lol.

So, I'm hoping the stars align, certain events come to place before the 2013 season starts, and no one grabs her so we can talk as fellow 323 owners.
I'll know better within the next few weeks.

In the end, I don't know what it is, but I feel a real attachment to this particular boat......she calls to me at night from the boat yard! lol

Thanks Again,

Ed

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Boat Handling / New to 323, quick question.

« on: January 17, 2013, 02:05:23 PM »

I stumbled across a 323 in my area that has potential for me.

The only question I have for you 323 owners is Engine HP/Displacement ratio.

Is the 23 HP Diesel adequate for this vessel?

I ask because I owned a Bristol 29.9, an 8900 lb vessel with the 15 HP inboard and was I lucky to average 4 kts SOG under power.

Granted most sailors are interested in sailing performance, I'm just as concerned about reserve power and long distance cruising under power.
23 HP appears to be just below Jack Horner's 2 Hp per 1,000 lbs of displacement rule of thumb guide to provide for adequate performance under power.

FWIW, when I took that Bristol  from the Atlantic into Lower/Upper Hudson bay and then up the NYC's East River and through Hell's gate, my knuckles were white for an extended period of time. Averaging 1 kt SOG on an outgoing tide underneath the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge for most of the night sucked. Hell's gate speaks for itself. So I like plenty of iron in my genny.

Hence this question.

Other than that, a serious long term love affair appears to be developing! She's seem's to fit my needs and may in fact be the last I ever own.


Thanks!

Ed