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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2014, 10:01:54 PM »
Those skinny 16 years olds can come in handy. One idea I came up with was to add an inspection port in the current Anchor locker. I wil try to send a picture late next week.

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2014, 04:39:02 PM »
Attached is what my Windlass will look like. I have not clamped everything down but this is the final fitting and measuring process. Note the Inspection port I put in the original Anchor Locker. This really helped with the install and will be a great help in the future to service the Anchor locker and chain.

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2014, 10:06:57 PM »
Great photos!  Thanks for posting them.  I am very very interested in this project because the Admiral wants a windlass.

What's your plan for the chain fall after it makes its 180 degree turn around the gypsy?  Or do you plan to just keep tailing it by hand into the locker?
@(^.^)@  Ed
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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2014, 10:29:25 PM »
Great photos! I love that we have two windlass projects underway...I'm really looking forward to "lessons Learned" and any other info that you two can share.

A couple questions:

1. What about ventilation? Without the forward cowl to help ventilate the bilge are either of you concerned about lack of air movement?

2. For the added, raised platform, how did you proceed so that the finished surface looks so nice? Is this gelcoat or is the entire deck painted?

3. Lastly, as the costs add up I hope that you will share your totals. Do you have estimates at this point in time? Deck modification, windlass, chain, anchor roller, wiring, switches, added batteries, etc?

I really like the inspection port in the anchor well...a great idea!

Many thanks!
Richard

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2014, 11:45:42 AM »
The Gypsy underneath the Capstan feeds the chain/line into the Anchor locker space between the V Berth Bulkhead and access port and the hull.  The Capstan on top I wanted just in case I needed it to hoist something. It has a number of uses that you might need in a tight spot.

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2014, 12:12:13 PM »
It should ventilate fine via the hole thru the deck where chain enters and it also has air that circulates from the vented teak board in the V berth. If that becomes a problem, you can always put in a vent in front of the windlass unit much like the original design. The deck builup was first made and shaped out of 3/4 marine plyboard (Picture attached) to 3 inches and then Fiber glassed to the hull and then gelcoat over that. When it is all over I think you have to figure at least 3,000 for the job. Alot depends on the unit you choose and what you pay for it. The type chain, and are you going to do some of the work yourself. I was lucky to have a friend that is pretty good with these types of projects and he had just done this project to his boat. He had been through all the issues and it was fresh in his mind what we have to measure and how to make it fit the 323.

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 03:58:57 PM »
rbtfeld:
Great shots and a good project.  I have received my Lofrans tigres.  I thought I ordered the 1200W model but the 1500W showed up.  Looks like it might interfere with the opening of the original anchor locker if I'm not creative with how it mounts.  More to come on that, but I've been stalled by the endless "named" snow storms in the NY area so haven't been able to get to the boat and too cold to do anything once there.  One question I have, however, is how much chain do you think that locker will hold.  I'm guessing you plan to use a rope/chain combination.  I'm thinking of all chain, maybe 200 feet.  Think it will fit?

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2014, 12:17:36 PM »
I think 200 ft of chain will fit as long as it falls correctly. What size chain is your windlass calling for? One thing to check is the drain tube for the current on deck anchor locker. Mine would have been in the way of the chain as it drops so I have rerouted it a little to make sure it does not get in the way. I am planning on 150ft of chain and 150 of line. I am pretty sure it will fit OK. Hope your windlass fits OK. You never know till you start playing around with the placement. The most important thing I am told is to get the angle of the chain from the roller to the gypsy right the first time. I am sure you will figure something out.  Good Luck and keep in touch.

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2014, 05:33:40 PM »
I have no experience with a windlass. The vertical option looks much easier to implement but I would like to use the existing locker for rode storage. Do you have to use a chain pipe with a vertical windlass?

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2014, 01:41:42 PM »
Here are more pictures of my Windlass Install.  I am ready to pull the wire and compete the project. I order 200 ft of Anchorlift line and 100 ft of 5/16 chain.

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2014, 03:39:45 PM »
Just an update on my windlass project for what its worth.  Hope I have attached the pics correctly.  I decided on the Lofrans Tigres.  It's overreach in terms of capacity - 12V 1500 watts and draws about 85 amps while operating.  Lofrans says it's for boats yup to 46 feet, so should be more than I'll ever need. You will note that the motor housing extends over the door of the anchor original anchor locker.  After considering several solutions to this, including cutting the door so that it swings open and 5200'ing the forward part or just not using it, I drilled out the hinges and inserted removable pins so that the door could be removed if/when necessary. In looking at it in comparison to the pics of others installations, it's not as clean but this is the windlass I wanted.  The teak pad is 2 inches so the angle of the wrap around the gypsy seems also to be ideal.
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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2014, 03:44:31 PM »
Additional pics, hopefully.

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2014, 06:53:34 PM »
I'll bet your glad to get this project over with. Mine turned out to be a lot harder to do than expected and cost way more than thought. There are a lot of options for the windlass. I think you have to just make a decision and go for it. I am gulity of overthinking and spent way to much time on mine. I am sure you will be happy when that chain starts coming aboard wihout your back blowing out a disk. Have a great sailing season. Thanks for the pics

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2014, 12:00:52 PM »
You're right.  Too much time and more than a little expense even AFTER buying the windlass.  I actually have not wired it yet.  That comes next weekend (hopefully).  After studying the wiring diagram on the solenoid and the wired remote switch, it all seems pretty straightforward.  One question, I am under the impression that you can run the windlass off the starting battery while the engine is running. I have a 70 amp alternator.  Would be interested in hearing how others on this list have decided which battery to run it from. 

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Re: Anchor Windlass Project
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2014, 12:12:50 AM »
That is a good question. I had my windlass wired by a marine electrician who at the same time replaced my AC shore power panel. I have a starting battery, but I am pretty sure the windlass is wired to the house battery's. I have a 100 amp alternator. I would want to make sure my starting battery is always going to work so I would think it best to go to the house first. I also carry a Honda 2000 generator just to make sure I can start the motor or charge at anchor. He did put the solenoid in the head area under the sink unit if that helps you decide where to put it.  I am going to put foot switches to back up the remote when I get time. Good luck with the final phase of the windlass project.